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– why I’m sharing this with you is you

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– gotta appreciate the size of this thing or

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– you’re gonna relapse. Right? That’s why we see

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– almost seventy percent of men having a significant

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– I don’t think they were in recovery. I

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– think they were just in sobriety. Right? They

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– But again, if you don’t change the beliefs

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– and the brain processes that drove the behavior

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– recovery and I believe you are at risk

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– You are listening to the sex addiction podcast

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– The root cause of your behavior. Right? You’ll

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– hear people talk about this a lot being

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– I agree, and I have other episodes on

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– this around how I agree. But I think

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– the concept of the root cause is a

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– Right? I have a root cause. Anybody who’s

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– read my book has heard me talk about

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– it in the book. You’ve heard me talk

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– about the podcast. Right? In the end, I

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– can summarize mine to really one sentence. Right?

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– I grew up and wondered if I mattered.

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– Right? Because a lot of the people in

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– I was significant. And so, I spent the

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– rest of my freaking life

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– proving my significance. And my process addiction was

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– the root cause, if you want to call

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– it that, was

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– I measured my

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– success or my mattering

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– by how many men were envious of me

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– and wanted to be me, wanted the life

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– that I had, wanted to have the things

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– that I have, the creative things that I

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– created. And then how many women wanted to

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– sleep with me? How many women were attracted

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– to me? How many women wanted me to

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– give their attention? How many women wanted me

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– really how I measured it. Right? How many

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– men want to be me? How many women

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– want to be with me? Right? Here’s the

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– bigger. And again, like, yes, that’s the root

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– Right? So the reason I’m striving so much,

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– this, but achievement is almost always birthed out

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– of insecurity and inadequacy. Right? I’m not enough

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– be enough when I get more. Right? And

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– not okay. I need more. Right? So there’s

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– inadequacies and insecurities. Right? And there’s a ton

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– from. Right? There’s hierarchy, social hierarchies. Right? Like,

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– not nice enough. Right? And those are just

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– some examples. Right? And then we have a

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– I’m recording this episode is, well, really two

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– It’s truly hundreds, if not thousands. Okay. There’s

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– of those things are going to get you

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– sharing this with you is you gotta appreciate

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– relapse. Right? That’s why we see almost seventy

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– because I don’t think they were in recovery.

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– I think they were just in sobriety. Right?

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– before. But again, if you don’t change the

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– beliefs and the brain processes

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– that drove the behavior in the first place,

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– you are not in recovery. And I believe

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– you are at risk of relapse. I always,

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– you know, in my book, I talk about,

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– side of the spectrum, right, you just get

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– right, you’re beginning recovery,

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– you’re way down on the unhealthy side, Right?

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– The unsober side. And relapse is is a

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– bad decision. But as we start recovering, we

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– And the closer and closer you get over

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– there, the harder and harder it is for

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– talk that keeps you from making the bad

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– the same behaviors. Right? So they’re actually not

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– episode is for the married men here. And

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– that’s because your wife is going to need

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– the only way that she is going to

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– any resemblance

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– of safety

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– while in this new kind of recovery marriage

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– heck this happened. And that’s not just this

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– simplified explanation of your root cause. Right? It’s

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– this greater understanding

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– of all of the things that went into

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– started. Why it started. Right? It’s the understanding

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– of the entire web of your process addiction

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– that actually allows you to dismantle it, change

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– it, and protect yourself and protect your marriage

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– from you doing any of this again. Now,

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– another word that I don’t necessarily love is

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– recovery. Because again, I think it’s too simple,

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– I like to call it self mastery

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– of the time that’s be it’s, it’s not

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– cheating and infidelity

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– what I just said, right? We don’t really

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– it sets you up really to get into

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– a container where you’re continuously

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– understanding yourself. You’re continuously understanding

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– how your beliefs formed, where they came from.

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– Because here’s what’s going to happen. You’ll start

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– to identify some really significant

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– even your early adult years. And you’ll start

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– identifying these really impactful events

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– that made you adapt.

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– Again, it could be somebody singling you out

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– and talking down to you. It could be

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– that if I execute on them perfectly, they

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– can lead to a ton of success. Success

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– consequences. There’s some men who the relationship with

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– these unwanted decisions. Right. So in, in many

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– perfect, but closer to perfect while still being

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– most. Now, I wanna end with giving you

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– guys a couple examples of what to do,

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– right? Because discovering

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– your process addiction

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– or root cause, whatever you wanna call it,

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– In person intensives. Okay? And there’s a couple

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– different ways to do this. I offer them

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– as a part of my groups, and there’s

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– other intensives out there. A lot of my

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– friends and colleagues have group intensives that they

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– offer, but it doesn’t have to be a

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– formal group intensive.

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– You could also just find a because again,

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– the problem with group intensives is they’re usually

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– on a particular date, right? And if your

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– the flexibility to attend that particular date, then

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– which is cool. So, and here’s the thing

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– I love about individual intensives

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– is find a, a therapist on my podcast

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– or on somebody else’s podcast, or a YouTube

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– video, or something that you really resonate with.

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– You’re like, I like that guy. Send him

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– an email. A lot of therapists,

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– And here’s the neat thing is, let’s say

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– a big deal because for the intensive, you’ll

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– days with this therapist,

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– and dive more into the root. And, and

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– here’s where this is different than therapy. Therapy

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– minute session. The real challenge with therapy is

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– we kind of have to pick a thing

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– that thing. Right? And then really next week,

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– sixty, ninety minutes, that one thing’s not far

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– from done. Right? The first session really just

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– this, oh, this faulty pattern. Okay. And then

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– after that’s done. Okay. Cool. Five, six, seven

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– the problem is there’s usually twenty, thirty, forty,

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– problematic things in somebody’s process addiction. And so

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– while therapy is great, here’s the challenge with

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– sex addiction recovery is there is a sense

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– of urgency here because we need to again

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– get ourselves on that healthy side of the

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– recovery spectrum as fast as possible, especially if

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– you’re married. Because I I don’t know about

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– you, but my wife was not going to

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– tolerate

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– a slip or a relapse.

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– Right? She was not going to tolerate that.

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– She needed me in great recovery and she

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– needed me to be honest and never make

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– this mistake again. So there was a sense

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– of urgency in there and that’s why I

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– love intensives. Now I’m still biased towards group

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– intensives and here’s why the challenge is therapists

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– are wonderful, but it’s just one person’s opinion,

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– right? So they’re going to do their best

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– to help create moments for you. Cause that’s

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– really what you’re paying for with these intenses,

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– right? It’s not so much healing because healing

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– takes more than three days, but it’s that,

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– okay, holy smokes. I understand me now. I

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– understand how all of this happened. And then

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– from there we go on through the recovery

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– process of, of making all the modifications.

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– The cool thing about groups and the reason

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– groups are so popular and all the research

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– says that peer support groups are the most

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– effective thing you can do is you’re getting

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– a bunch of other people’s

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– opinions and outlooks. And so you’re creating way

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– more moments. And this is why I always

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– encourage, try to find a group full of

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– people like you. Right? Similar goals, similar aspirations,

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– similar place in life, similar mindset. Because obviously

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– the more like you they are, the more

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– and more you guys are gonna have very

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– similar experiences, which then again statistically increases the

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– chances of you having those light bulb moments

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– about why all of this happened. Right? Understanding

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– your process addiction. Again, if you can’t access

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– that, that’s fine. Therapy, I’ve done a ton

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– of just one on one therapy intensives and

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– they’re, and they’re extremely effective as well. The

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– other thing that you can do is consume

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– books and podcasts, YouTube videos, etcetera. And the

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– reason for this is again, we’re trying to

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– get, we’re trying to hear as many just

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– concepts and ideas as we can about, again,

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– your past, your present. You’re trying to put

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– all the pieces together so that you can

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– start tracing these breadcrumbs

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– back to where this all came from. Right?

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– That’s the whole concept of root cause. Here’s

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– the only challenge with books and podcasts or

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– any kind of passive resource that you’re consuming

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– I love my book. I think it’s very

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– helpful. A lot of guys have found it

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– helpful. The problem is I don’t know who

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– you are. I’ve never met you before, or

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– maybe I have, depending on who’s listening to

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– this podcast. But because I didn’t write the

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– book for you, we’re gonna miss a lot

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– of context. So that’s the only reason I

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– still guide men towards in person intensives is

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– it’s this neat opportunity to really make customized

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– feedback and customized recovery plan for you as

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– an individual for your specific process addiction.

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– Your third option is, again, therapy. It’s not

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– like therapy is not gonna help with all

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– this. A really good therapist is gonna help

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– you retrace all these things. That’s not a

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– bad thing. The only reason I’m partial to

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– intensives and even passive materials is you can

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– increase the speed at which you’re consuming it.

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– Now there is such thing as too much

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– recovery. Okay? So, so don’t do that, but

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– find that sweet spot where you’re basically you

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– have the opportunity to assemble everything that you

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– need to figure out how this happened and

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– create a plan so you can get it

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– out of your life. And here’s the last

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– thing I’ll leave you with. I have never

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– met a man who has mastered self, who

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– has continued to slip and relapse.

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– Okay? Self mastery is the name of the

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– game. You need to figure out, yes, the

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– root cause, but more importantly, you need to

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– figure out a way of living so that

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– you can prevent any of these harmful beliefs

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– and kind of kind of these, you know,

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– whatever you wanna call them. I call them

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– pathologies, but whatever you wanna call these beliefs

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– in your head that you developed early in

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– life as adaptations to help you. And in

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– many ways, they made you extremely successful.

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– They’re going to cause you harm though if

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– you have not mastered self and figured out

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– a way to prevent these from affecting your

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– life. Right? In my own recovery, there’s a

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– ton of things that I have gotten past

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– that I feel like are potentially out of

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– my life permanently and have not continued to

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– haunt me. But there are one or two

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– or three of my brain processes that I

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– feel them. Sometimes I feel them daily. Sometimes

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– I feel them once a month. They are

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– there. And those things are going to threaten

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– the safety that my wife and I have

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– built. So, it’s my self mastery

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– that I have developed that prevents those things

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– from coming back into my life. But again,

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– I’ve never met a man who has mastered

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– self who continues to slip and relapse.

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– Thanks for listening to this episode. If you

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– are a high achiever of the sex addiction

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– and you’re looking for a recovery group full

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– of like minded men, visit successfuladdict.com.

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– using four day retreats, weekly group calls, and

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– daily accountability check ins. If you wanna achieve

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– long term sobriety and save your marriage, go

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– to our website and fill out our application.

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– along to a friend in recovery who would

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– benefit from listening. It is my mission to

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– get this information out to as many high

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– achievers as possible, and I can’t do it

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– without your help.