80. Are My Sex Addiction Groups Full Of Narcissists?

It’s a common assumption… “Roland, don’t you think that these men need to hang out with men who are NOT like them? Don’t you think this adds to their ego and narcissistic traits?”

No… I strongly disagree.

In fact, the fastest way for them to get over their superiority complex, grandiosity, and narcissistic traits is to be around men who are struggling in the same way.

Yes, these traits are largely responsible for their sex addiction. Therefore, they need to be a HUGE focus in their recovery.

This episode discusses why it’s essential to prioritize addressing these unwanted traits at the top of your recovery list.

If you are a high-achiever looking for a recovery group full of like-minded men, visit our website to apply: www.successfuladdict.com

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I get why they would assume that these

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are a bunch of just narcissistic men with

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over inflated egos and I I'm not gonna

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say you're wrong.

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You are listening to the sex addiction podcast

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for high achievers, business professionals, executives, and entrepreneurs.

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This podcast is designed to apply sobriety and

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recovery principles

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specifically to the mindset of the high achiever.

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And now, enjoy the rest of the episode.

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Are my groups full of a bunch of

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narcissists?

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It is a common assumption. Right? Because all

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of my groups are full of high achieving

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entrepreneurial men, lawyers, doctors, surgeons, sales professionals,

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you know, business owners of different kinds.

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You know, it's it's it's I I get

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why they would assume that these are a

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bunch of just narcissistic men with overinflated egos.

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And,

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I I'm not gonna say you're wrong. I'll

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be the first to admit,

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do do,

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successful men in in America, especially,

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you know, do they have narcissistic traits? Absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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Have they grown to be pretty darn entitled?

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Yes. They have. I'm not gonna say that

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they haven't.

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You know, and along with that grandiosity,

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you know, you know, extremely egoic behaviors,

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You know, no no question about it. So

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I'm so I I can see why people

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would assume that about my my groups. Right?

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And then for the betrayed partners,

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I could see you can see why they

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would be like, why do I want this

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guy to go hang around a bunch of

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guys with these with these traits, these personality

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traits? Well well, here's why, though. It's actually

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the opposite of what you would think. Right?

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I think the assumption is that,

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being around these men is going to,

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going to promote more,

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narcissistic traits and use of these traits. It's

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gonna promote more grandiosity,

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more superiority complexes, more, hey. We're special. We're

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entitled. We're above the rules. Right? You know,

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I it's actually the opposite though. The the

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reason I put these groups together literally, the

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entire reason I put these groups together

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was to actually combat those things.

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Now hear me out. We let so let's

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say you go to a group, that's open

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to the general population. Right? And it's not

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specific to high achieving men. So now here

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you are, and everyone is talking about their

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addiction stories,

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their personality flaws, and the different, you know,

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belief systems that they've developed that needs to

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change. Right?

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But what if none of it has to

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do with things that you deal with as

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a high achieving man in America?

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Is that actually beneficial? You know? So it's

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it's this paradox of where, you know, I

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think everyone says, like, oh, I don't want

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my husband in that environment around men like

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that because it's gonna make their problems worse.

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It it it could not be further from

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the truth. It could not be further from

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the truth. It is actually the exact opposite.

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I would say if guys are going into

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a room

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where all the other men in that room

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are not, you know, they don't struggle with,

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entitlement, you know, successful male entitlement. They don't

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struggle with the sense of superiority and this

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desire to be the best.

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They they aren't, you know, really,

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confident, outgoing, and and trying to constantly use

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kind of these egoic

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pieces of their success

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for self gain. Right? If you're not if

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if, if the other guys in the room

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are not struggling in the same way that

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you're struggling with your thought processes,

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it actually I would say you're creating more

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blind spots. You know, if no if there's

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no other, you know, successful guy in the

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room who operates and has a compuls you

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know, sexual compulsivity like you,

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I would say there's blind spots. You you

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you won't talk about it nearly as much

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as you probably should. Because I do. I

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it it's funny. The the very traits, you

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know, grandiosity,

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entitlement,

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the the narcissistic traits, the desire to be

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superior

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superior in the superiority complex. Right?

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This constant thirst for for novelty and and,

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you know, boredom is our enemy. Right? All

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of these traits, definitely, without without question, I'll

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be the first to admit

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have promoted and,

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caused made our sexually compulsive behaviors worse. No

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question about it. No question about it. And

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those are the very things that need to

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be discussed.

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So my point is it's it's interesting. Right?

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You you the assumption, I think, is like,

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oh, it's a bunch of just rich dudes

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hanging out, who don't really wanna change.

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I I can't that there is nothing further

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from the truth.

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It is a yes. They are a successful

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net. And, yes, have they done well for

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themselves financially?

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Sure. But do we want to keep being

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this way?

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Entitled? You kidding me? No.

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Entitled, I I that's the last thing I

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wanna be. Narcissistic? You bet that's even worse.

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Superior? Right? That I walk into every room

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and, like, for decades, I've been trying to

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be better than other men, and now I

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realize that that's actually severed my ability to

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connect and be equal with others. Right? This

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this, you know, what kind of guy thinks

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he's above the rules? What are you, freaking

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10 years old? I mean, these are these

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are not good traits to have. And so,

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no. In no way are my groups full

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of men trying to hang on to these

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traits. It is it is the exact opposite.

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I would say

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daily, weekly,

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and at the intensives,

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a huge focus of the discussion is we

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gotta get this crap out of our life.

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We can't walk around trying to be better

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than others and striving to be superior.

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Right? This whole thing that, oh, we've we've

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worked hard and we've accomplished, so now, you

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know, we're entitled to these certain things. I

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mean, come on. You know, it's childish. It's

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this childish behavior. So my the reason I

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record this is it is a common it

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is a very common question that I get

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from,

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you know, therapists and betrayed partners. Like, why

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why a group for successful men? And here's

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the reason why.

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Two reasons. One,

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their compulsivity is entirely different. It it is

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very much driven through this need for attention,

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respect, admiration,

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superiority.

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Again, it's this it's it's feeding, you know,

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it's feeding that grandiosity. So in in in

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many ways, this program, you know, you know,

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yes, it's a it's a sex addiction program,

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but the driver from the sex addiction is

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from this grandiose superiority complex

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male entitlement thing. It really is. That's the

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cause. So, so, yes, are we filling the

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groom room with men struggling with that very

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same process addiction? Yes. Intentionally.

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We are intentionally doing that to increase the

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likelihood that we are actually addressing the very

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issues that men like this are struggling with.

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And the goal isn't to keep

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being this way. You know, we're we're we're

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not trying to create this, like, special group

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where we're better than other men's men in

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addiction. That is not the case at all.

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I'm trying to create an environment where men

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can connect with other men who have the

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same process addiction.

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Right? Who who are who are engaging in

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the exact same unwanted brain practices. Right? Whereas

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when they go to twelve step and the

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room's full of guys who just have a

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very different sex addiction than them, how connecting

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is that? How much are we actually having

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the conversations that we need to have to

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get over some of these beliefs that are

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actually driving all this behavior in the first

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place? So again, is are my groups full

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of narcissists, grandiose men, entitled men? Sure.

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You could say that. And I wouldn't think

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it's necessarily

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false. But I would say, do we are

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we proud of becoming that way? Are we

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born that way? Do we wanna stay that

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way? No. There's not a single guy in

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any one of my groups

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who likes those traits and doesn't recognize that

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it has almost destroyed their entire life and

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what looks like and could destroy their family

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and completely ruin their what their their wife's,

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you know, sense of self and sense of

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future and past. Right? We we we see

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the ugliness of these traits and they are

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they are unattractive traits. And they're personally frankly,

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just traits that we never really wanted to

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have in the first place. So in no

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way are we trying to keep any of

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this superiority. You know, the only reason we

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are gathering together is because we have a

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lot in common, and it's just easier to

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connect and easier to have, you know, really

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insightful discussions

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around our very specific process addiction.

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In no way is it's because we think

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we're better than other people. It's not like

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a a rich man's club. That that is

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not what this is. It is a it

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is a place together around, having a very

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similar process addiction that we are all pursuing

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so that we can change it faster.

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Thanks for listening to this episode. If you

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are a high achiever with the sex addiction

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and you're looking for a recovery group full

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